Pierre Bonnet
  • Home
  • Work experience
  • Skills
  • Education
  • Books
  • IS/IT passport
  • Contact details
  • Links
  • My Blog

Software AG, Progress Software and others... all in a blind alley

10/22/2010

18 Comments

 
Historic Software Vendors are struggling to deliver something more sustainable than just a BPM glued on their EAI/ESB. It is high time for them to suggest added values! They understand that something is happening beyond their legacy IT bricks. That’s good news, but I am afraid they are still immature when I see their strange strategies.

Software AG has acquired a MDM solution and states they will integrate it with their BPM offering. But what about the business rules handle by processes? What is the interest of having flexibility at the levels of processes and data if business rules still remain implemented with a hard coding approach?

And what can we say about the Progress Software's strategy which is quite different from SAG? Indeed, Progress Software is working on the integration of their BPM with their very powerful CEP solution; it means Processes + Events and BRMS. They call that RPM: Responsive Process Management. But what about the data governance needed to bring reliable ref/master data to the CEP/BRMS, and then the BPM?

I think that IBM could build a relevant architecture as they hold the Ilog BRMS and strong BPM solutions, but they face a big concern with their heavy and ancient MDM offerings. There are too many software with insufficient integration. This is quite the same worry about Oracle, with a clear weakness in the MDM and data governance field. Tibco is not well positioned as their BRMS offering is just an OEM with Corticon and I don’t see any integration with their MDM as it is more an IT oriented data management system than a real and open data governance solution to business users.

Informatica still remains in the IT data integration area as their recent acquisition in the “MDM” landscape is not a real multi-domains MDM and more a type of CDI/PIM without the ability to integrate full BRMS and BPM approaches. SAP is not a player in the agnostic IT infrastructure landscape; they have to struggle against platforms as a service stemming from the cloud, such as Salesforce and force.com. I firmly believe they would have a strategic interest in implementing a real data governance and rules governance but I don’t see them moving on this market today.

In synthesis, we can say that the offerings of historic Software Vendors are really immature. Indeed, we should never forget that the Sustainable IT Architecture is based on a chain of agility: processes rely on business rules, and these later rely on ref/master data. Therefore the natural integration path is as follows: MDM first, then integration with the CEP/BRMS, and at last integration with the BPM.

Avoiding the blind alley means to deal with MDM and Data governance first.
Thanks to a good command of ref/master data management, it becomes relevant and sustainable to work on the integration with a BRMS, and then with a BPM.
By the way, this is what we promote at Sustainable IT Architecture and what we deliver at Orchestra Networks.

Pierre Bonnet
www.pierre-bonnet.com
18 Comments
Martha Lemoine
10/22/2010 12:16:45 pm

Pierre,
IBM bought Initiate System (MDM tool sell as Multidomain with ver good acceptance in the health care sector. Do you see that adquisition making a difference?
Software AG has a new license agreement with FICO to give unrestrict access to Blaze Advisor as per a Gartner report on BPM.
What is your view on the open source space (e.g. Talend-MDM, JBoss -BRMS, Bonita BPM) ?

Reply
Pierre Bonnet link
10/24/2010 05:02:20 pm

Hi Martha,

Thanks for your comment. My answer:

- The fact that Initiate has a good acceptance in a specific vertical market is not a relevant indicateur of genericty and agnostic model-driven approach. By the way, the key point is the quality of the data modeling, such as for example: ability to manage data links cardinality as ref/master data to handle several uses contexts of a same data model, ability to manage business objects' life-cycles as state machines and then decision tables to streamline data referentiels integrity constraints, etc. Not sure that IBM has the ability to manage these types of mechanisms, whereas they are essential to success in multi-domains MDM,

- Software AG is focused on BPM mainly, their OEM with BRMS vendors bring no added values. They don't have a good understanding of the Data and Rules governance requirements,

- Talend is not really an open-source company. The price of their MDM product is as expensive as other players in the field. By the way, they deliver an IT oriented product without real Data Governance functions open to business users. Their MDM relies heavily on Eclipse IDE, this is not full web-based.

- Jboss-BRMS and Bonita BPM are good players to establish a first ACMS foundation but MDM must be set up first and no real open source solution exists. The challenge with a MDM system is not the integration and the data repository mainly, but the data governance funtions which have to be really open to business users and the performance level of the data modeling approach. This challenge is very complex to achieve and requires a sustainable R&D investment.

Of course, this is my viewpoint as the initiator of the ACMS (Agility Chain Management System) concept, so I want software vendors to make more progress in the field of MDM+BRMS+BPM integration.

Hope this comment will be useful

Pierre Bonnet

Reply
Emmanuel Marchiset
10/25/2010 12:14:14 am


From what you said the only vendors with MDM+ESB+BPM are TIBCO and IBM... Interesting...

One other point about TIBCO is that Corticon was an old partnership I think they now focus on their own rules technology in BusinessEvents products.

Reply
Pierre Bonnet link
10/25/2010 12:59:35 am

Hi Emmanuel,

That's not really what I said. The purpose is not to align a set of software products such IBM or Tibco can deliver. The real added value relies on the performance level of the linking value between MDM, BRMS and BPM.

To achieve such a added value, software vendors need to focus first on Data Governance, it means a MDM open to business users with the ability to absord any rich data models whatever business domains and complexity of data modeling, including for example data links cardinality managed as ref/master data. And in this field, historic software vendors are facing a big missing link. I am convinced that the approach we promote at Sustainable IT Architecture could help them to reshape their offerings.

Sincerely
Pierre Bonnet

Reply
emr chiropractic  link
7/16/2012 09:27:32 pm

They deliver an IT oriented product without real Data Governance functions open to business users.

Reply
juicer link
9/29/2013 05:58:35 am

Whats a good website to start a blog on (a free one), and how would i do that?.

Reply
Oracle Training link
3/24/2015 09:45:08 pm

Great work

Reply
Oracle Training in Coimbatore link
3/30/2016 01:33:30 am

Great Post.I still think informatica MDM along with Informatica power exchange is one of the best mapping

Reply
Pierre
3/30/2016 01:46:43 am

So long time I wrote this post and good to see a new comment many years later. Actually what I described is now available there: www.orchestranetworks.com
We have followed the path and we carry on
Hope this old post still useful
Sincerely

Reply
Jeba link
4/26/2016 12:08:39 am

Great Post.

Reply
informatica online training in hyderabad link
6/9/2016 03:33:27 am

Thanku for sharing...
Informatica training, in the recent times has acquired a wide scope of popularity amongst the youngsters at the forefront of their career. Informatica offers in depth education and information to the students in building up their career in the field of technology. Technology, with the rising trends and the continuous latest innovations offers a helping hand to the people in general. Besides, it is also attracting many students to pursue it as a career
<a href="http://hadooptraininginhyderabad.co.in/informatica-training-in-hyderabad/">Informatica online training in hyderabad</a>


Reply
akalya suresh link
8/8/2016 01:30:37 am

Its Cost Effective Software

Reply
dot net training in chennai link
9/22/2016 08:09:03 am

This is my first visit to your blog, your post made productive reading, thank you.

Reply
Digital marketing course in Chennai link
10/16/2018 06:07:05 am

Nice post. Thank you for sharing

Reply
kani link
12/15/2019 11:30:22 pm

nice..
<a href="https://www.wikitechy.com/hosting">hosting</a>
<a href="https://www.wikitechy.com/hosting/india">india hosting</a>
<a href="https://www.wikitechy.com/hosting/india/web-hosting">india web hosting</a>
<a href="https://www.wikitechy.com/hosting/iran/web-hosting">iran web hosting</a>
<a href="https://www.wikitechy.com/technology/11-great-image-hosting-sites-like-imgur">technology 11 great image sites like imgur hosting</a>
<a href="https://www.wikitechy.com/final-year-project/dotnet/server-hacking/what-is-web-hosting">final year project dotnet server hacking what is web hosting</a>
<a href="https://www.wikitechy.com/hosting/macao/web-hosting">macao web hosting</a>
<a href="https://www.inplanttrainingchennai.com/">inplant training in chennai</a>
<a href="https://www.kaashivinfotech.com">inplant training in chennai</a>
<a href="http://kaashivinfotech.com">inplant training in chennai for it.php</a>

Reply
kani link
12/15/2019 11:32:51 pm

nice

Reply
kani link
12/24/2019 01:41:27 am

nice...
<a href="https://www.wikitechy.com/hosting/dominican-republic/web-hosting/hosting/slovakia/web-hosting">slovakia web hosting</a>
<a href="https://www.wikitechy.com/hosting/dominican-republic/web-hosting/hosting/timor-lestes/"> timor lestes hosting</a>
<a href="https://www.wikitechy.com/hosting/egypt/">egypt hosting</a>
<a href="https://www.wikitechy.com/hosting/egypt/web-hosting">egypt web hosting</a>
<a href="https://www.wikitechy.com/hosting/ghana/">ghana hosting</a>
<a href="https://www.wikitechy.com/hosting/iceland/">iceland hosting</a>
<a href="https://www.wikitechy.com/hosting/italy/shared-web-hosting">italy shared web hosting</a>
<a href="https://www.wikitechy.com/hosting/jamaica/web-hosting">jamaica web hosting</a>
<a href="https://www.wikitechy.com/hosting/kenya/">kenya hosting</a>
<a href="https://www.wikitechy.com/hosting/kuwait/web-hosting">kuwait web hosting</a>

Reply
subha link
6/11/2020 07:05:27 am

In today’s scenario individuals have got really busy inside their lives and work. They want to grow and learn as many new things as they possibly can. This drive has initiated a feeling of awareness amongst individuals and thus they find approaches to invent alternatives for daily tasks. thanks
<a href="https://www.acte.in/ai-artificial-intelligence-training-in-chennai"> Ai & Artificial Intelligence Course in Chennai </a>
<a href="https://www.acte.in/php-training-in-chennai"> PHP Training in Chennai </a>
<a href="https://www.acte.in/ethical-hacking-course-in-chennai"> Ethical Hacking Course in Chennai </a> <a href="https://www.acte.in/blue-prism-training-in-chennai"> Blue Prism Training in Chennai </a>
<a href="https://www.acte.in/uipath-training-in-chennai">UiPath Training in Chennai </a>

Reply



Leave a Reply.

    Author

    Pierre Bonnet, IT/IT Architect

    Archives

    June 2016
    November 2010
    October 2010

    Categories

    All
    Software Vendors
    Viewpoint

    RSS Feed